's worth googling to read. >> would you comment on the solarium project? >> one of the great planning exercising of all time, and a model for everything that followed was ike coming out of the truman administration had to figure out a strategy, and he put together, ike was unafraid to put smartest guys in the room. presidents don't want to do that. ike welcomed debate, jumped in himself, and so he organized a methodical process where people offered three options, basically, a preemptive strike on the union, a fairly aggressive rollback strategy, and another that looked like containment, aired these things, and at the end, there's a famous quote from george cannon who was, of course, the author of "containment," and he was running the containment task force, and he had a con -- condescending view, and he said at the end of the meeting, eisenhower, the president, stands up and sharply summarizes what nay were talking about for three days, gettings -- gets right to the heart of the matter, and cannon goes, wow, he's the smartest guy in the room. he department show the smarts until the ve